Id love to see this Eurosport commentator substantiate even 1% of the outrageous claims he makes. The best thing you can do is relax, in my opinion, Kirby explains about going live on air. The Wanty-GroupeGobert rider was air lifted to hospital after the crash yesterday, but thankfully it seems like he's in a stable condition. why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. The actual bones of the job are quite similar. This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. Its Kirbys cheat sheetfor every stage in the race, with details of the top finishers, jersey wearers, men in the breakaway and so on. The Tour de Suisse is traditionally one of the last big races before the Tour de France. Fantasy Cycling: game [at] road.cc You can do that by clicking one of these links - TAKES 30 SECONDS: https://help.eurosport.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new, https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/requests. Help us to make it better. Exactly - and if you had any insight into professional riding and experience actually being a pro like Sean Kelly or Rob Hayles - you wouldnt struggle to find commentary. That doesnt portend his job has not become a whole lot harder. He spoils everyones enjoyment of the race with his silly so called jokes and rubbish talk. Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby, cyclists blamed for countryside litter - Twitter responds, Colnago e-bike, Jason Kenny, Jeremy Vine on close-passes, TdY teams, Peloton baby + more. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. Well ride that sympathy and see how far it takes us up the beach. Driver escapes punishment for alleged hit-and-run on cyclist, as victim blasts police inaction and barriers to justice. I heard him doing weightlifting once. Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses the collision between Peter Sagan and Mark Cavendish that ended the Tour de France for both men. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. Im a bit annoyed at myself because I lost my temper at the time. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . Nonetheless, one other thing that Kirby believes, sets the very best apart is commitment. CK:I think not many people will notice. Kirby has however found his own distinctive and unique style which has brilliantly worked for him all these years. On the last Vuelta a Espaa, Tinkhoff threatened to pull his team out because two of his riders - one of whom is Peter Sagan - were hit by vehicles. As you say, he doesn't shout unnecessarily either. Thomas De Gendt launched a solo attack from the break with 60 kilometres remaining of todays opening stage of the Volta a Catalunya, covering 163 kilometres and starting and finishing in Calella and the Lotto-Soudal rider now finds himself with a lead of almost three minutes on his rivals. Star names like Sagan getting knocked off and knocked out of races. We dont want this man commentating. He further says, "In tennis, you never talk through a point because the crowd doesn't. 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And to be honest, most of us are scared of losing Carlton Kirkby in case Ant McCrossan takes his place. pic.twitter.com/TkvUUUeBXs. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. Eurosport have a lot of these, so theres a lot of conversation going on in your ear [between producers] and its quite a task trying to keep the flow of what you are saying, Kirby says. There are already calls for a convening of UCI protocol committee so they can start to get some proper rules together about it. As for Kirby - its the arrogance of the bloke - does he think his viewers are 10 year olds who know NOTHING about cycling. Kirby is not uncomfortable with the spurt of social media and the exponential increase of criticism that has gone alongside with it. Most races have one unit but the Tour de France has four double-decker units. I had almost no idea what was going on or who was where. Always the hardest and most challenging role in such types of games is of a cycling commentator. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Eurosport commentator. Partly, of course, that's his job - but if you give it out, you have to take it. American racers headed to Italy chime in. Riders having to get close to a motorbike just to take a corner. Cookies help us deliver our services. Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. I never say when Im on-site vs. at the race. pic.twitter.com/bcRWeK1p3o, just merder. The moment you have spoken a word, it is out there on tape and on every news website, forum, and who knows what. My Ultimate Commuter, rebuilding her at the moment, everything external. theres nowhere like ENOUGH cycling on tv. Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. My primary issue with Carlton Kirby is that he doesn't commentate on what is happening (he rambles whatever is inside his head). Even once the race itself is over, and the post-analysis is done, theres a second race to get away from the finish line. Yeah he does. All of that is avoidable if you have the right distance and the right protocol in place. Some of which have been admitted, some of which weren't. Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. And, he is right about it. Without any editing, moderation, or credibility, it is all out in the name of fate. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. He is thinking Champs Elysees. You might remember an 'interpretive spinning' vid doing the rounds on social media a few weeks ago. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. pic.twitter.com/fFcEf0AgHK, Volta a Catalunya (@VoltaCatalunya) March 25, 2019. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. We will never sell your data and you'll only get messages from us and our partners whose products and services we think you'll enjoy. Its a case of trying to keep everybody amused. And, one can understand the enthusiasm that has kept him going despite the setbacks and even criticism from people. If you're after one, guess that does makethe two grand plus 40 quid a month price tag seem a little fairer A mother from London has launched a petition calling for a second coroner's inquest into the death of her daughter, who passed away at nine years of age in what was originally believed to be an asthma-related case. He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. All rights reserved. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. And alongside everything going on in his ear and on the screens in front of him, Kirby says the booths themselves can be a sourceof distraction from the job of commentating. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. Kittel is not a broken man, but his supremacy has tumbled because Mark Cavendish has only gone and won four stages here. #cycling @carltonkirby whatsonreading.com Carlton Kirby True Tales of the Tour de France | What's On Reading But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. That is common in France and Belgium with a dedicated roving reporter from the race roving all over the peloton and having a chat. Thus concentrating becomes a difficult job for a commentator. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. And he wasn't wrong. I think it is just individual race directors who decide who gets to ride these bikes. There are no gaps you might shut up for five seconds or so to listen to the crowd, but thats it.. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport . you can't have it on while doing other things and then return to the screen when it gets interesting because by the time Kirby has noticed many minutes will have passed. At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. That is in fact my main Friday occupation. Eurosport cant get away with this !! Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. We need to get to tomorrows finish line, and sometimes that is a four-hour drive. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. Yes Harmon is okay and like I said - at least he does his homework on the teams and riders and hangs on every word uttered by Sean Kellyas though he is keen to learn the professional circuit. We've asked Colnago for more details but they just shrugged their shoulders in reply. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirby's voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosport's race coverage. What a load of rubbish - Team Sky Fan !! He has to engage with the directors in the ear, guarantee that innumerable hours of gaps are filled in suitably, deal with incoming radio announcements, all the while tackling an uproar of a different kind with the action around him. Plus security bikes, plus rolling paramedics. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. Ill ring someone up on-site to talk to them. The headline does anyway, while the sources in the article cover a few different potential causes. Jason Kenny has recounted to the BBC the near miss he and his infant son Albie encountered while out cycling last month. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. I'm not sure if they have forgotten about the rule, or if it was always just advisory. 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. You get a sense of the weather a bright morning, going up this morning in a hail storm, and the hailstones are this big. And somebody asked me, why dont you pronounce his name Foo-gel-sang instead ofFoolsong. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. Hosted by Duncan Steer. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. But I do allow people to believe Im always on-site. Baseless. It doesnt take much accomplishment to understand what Kirby is referring to. Would the football fans be subjected to him commentating on the football matches ? I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVams overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. . To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. Here they are listed below, but we already know there will be one change - Team Sky will be racing as Team Ineos, with the Tour de Yorkshire being its first race following the management company's sale to the petrochemical business. What is the point? Harmon LOVES cycling, cycling history, and even riders who don't speak English. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. I've just discovered, after following a tweet that Orla Chennaoui had re-tweeted, that the esteemed Mr Kirby has blocked me on Twitter. Cycling is a sport where there are no time limits and there are no constant action-packed sequences to speak about. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. Kirby has more than two decades as a commentatorbehind him and, alongside Irish legend Sean Kelly, has been back at the Tour de France this year calling the action from Utrecht through to Paris. Read our full Privacy Policy as well as Terms & Conditions. Carlton Kirby is a sports commentator who is most known for his work commentating on the Tour de France. Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. pic.twitter.com/RRu5rosVP4, Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) March 24, 2019, This time it's a driver who doesn't get the concept of taking the lane (and is caught soon after he risks an overtake on the clogged up London street anyway), Yesterday officers were helped by youths on pedal cycles & many other members of public in catching a thief (300 theft) from Bentley Bridge who security were chasing for a while. The races are only on GCN/Eurosport. At Eurosport, because the producer maynot necessarily be listening to the Englishcommentary, theyll be occasions when I goto Sean and say, so what do you think of Sagan? and hell start mulling it over and responding and then all of a sudden well get a producing lining up a cue pointin his ear, and hell have to switch from his usual, slow voice to speaking very quickly and wrapping up his point in five seconds for no apparent reason to the viewer. Kirby says he opens the Tours road book (the bible for riders and media alike) first and foremost, having to change all of the notes to match his commentary notes and the on-screen graphics counting down the kilometres, rather than up as the book does. Kittel threw his arms up in the air, and lost not only first place, but second, third and fourth..winding up in fifth because of his complaints. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator's weekly guide to what's not going on in cycling during the lockdown. It is all kinds of stuff. When youre part of the race caravan, all you talk about is the race. The man, the myth, the chosen son. And hes trying to improve them. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . All crescendo sports deserve to be treated as such. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. For over 20 years, be it the Tour de France, Olympic Games, Monte Carlo Rally or Le Mans 24 Hours, his easy-going manner coupled with incisive commentary and a dramatic edge has made him an audience favourite. If you don't like something, how else can you change it - by saying nothing? Let us know what you think in the comments. And suddenly some feel like a part of the race. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," Carlton Kirby tells Betway in a recent interview, one of the principal commentators for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has served in the sport since 1996. That is because like most hacks they are too arrogant to do any research and preparation. Or at least diminished. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? At dinner, you gather around the table and argue the hell out of it, and thats a big thing. We cant do that when hes at his house and Im at mine. The current situation has made things difficult, where previously they would head over to the channel to cover Tour De France, now they sit in their studios and practice social distancing and looking at monitors. Kirby remarks, Its not like a written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it. Theres no doubt about it, the most difficult thing to do is cover nothing, he says. They will tell you, Yes, so-and-so is looking really mentally fatigued, or, they are saying, Hes getting very aggressive in the peloton and weve had a word with the team, that is all great information. This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. Info-wise, being on-site is amazing.. Of all the criticisms that can be leveled at him (not recognising riders, not admitting he doesn't recognise a rider), being only interested in angolophone riders isn't one of them. 27/8/22: Stage 7 of the Vuelta, Herrada wins the sprint and has his arm in the air in celebration. Would like to cancel eurosport but it's the only way to watch the classics (legitimately at least). This year alone, we had a Sky rider getting his elbow clipped by a security vehicle when he went for a gap when none existed. But try explaining that to Cycling Weekly and their letters column.. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. Get the latest race news, results, commentary, and tech, delivered to your inbox. Thats because the Tours largest broadcasters are staying at home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than broadcasting the race on-site in France. Kirby has the benefit of what he calls the ultimate pass the presence of his legendary co-commentator when it comes to cutting through the crowds and police lines. One of the most adaptable voices on British Television, as can be seen from hisworking synopsis, Carltons range is wide. The word count for me at the end is almost blurred.. Being a commentator is all about improvisation and Kirby knows this quite well considering his huge range of experience. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. And its only the past year that we even get to see more than the Tour de France. More often than not they slip into commentary which is at best nationalistic, and at worst xenophobic. Pure invention; based on nothing. The One Subscription to Fuel All Your Adventures. Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. You get the atmosphere and emotion of a place. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. As is seen in most cases, the primary action of any game takes place during the outset and ending parts. because there wuld be an uprising in the country. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. I'm constantly berating or pointing out the danger of the motorcycle. Kittel moves first into Cavendish, who follows the white line. Owned by Warner Bros. In the second episode of Story Time with Carlton Kirby, the Eurosport commentator reads an excerpt from his book (Magic Spanner) about how British cycling caused a seismic change in the. By using this website, you agree to our use of cookies. The problem is that social media has allowed anyone and everyone to voice their opinion, regardless of their credibility. CK:As a commentator, you dont have a great deal of contact with the riders. He believes. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. So, were close to the press guys who have spoken to the riders, and they wander up during the day, and weve been in place for two hours already, and we meet with you guys. I don't have anything against him personally, but he doesn't seem to get the basics of the sport. And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. Carlton Kirby discusses the art of commentary, says thank you to those who enjoy listening to him. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. Simon Yates drops back to the Peloton in the last 2km - Carlton Kirby: 'Yates has decided this isn't worth the candle' - i.e. She got hit by a car and thats someones mum, not just a cyclist. The schedule and time duration work differently for every sport. Kittel is still the fastest guy out there, but when he turns on the taps there is going to be a point when his maximum capacity starts to diminish. On the descent, motorbikes often get too close to the cyclist in front of them. Among the big names the Belgian put time into today were Alejandro Valverde, fourth overall and 2 minutes 56 second down in fourth place overall, and Team Skys Egan Bernal, a further 1 second back. I can't understand why Eurosport need to use him when they gave at least four other knowledgeable commentators, even without Harmon. Various types of distractions are always ready for a commentator. . There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. To my mind, the motorcycles are the most dangerous because they have the least ability to stop. I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. One thing Ive always been able to do is, I believe, see a very wide picture and a lot of different movement, and call those fast and accurately. Carlton Kirby and His Approach On Commenting for GCN and Eurosport This Year: While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. Discovery company. With very little data being sent to them, and some pretty bad camerawork they have made a good fist of the event in Spain. It is guys sitting on a motorbike who pull up alongside a cyclist and say 'how are you doing?'. A football match lasts for hardly ninety minutes, a rugby match is over in eighty minutes, whilst a basketball game takes only thirty-eight minutes to finish. You could hear a pin drop. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. On rest days we circulate to meet with everybody. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVam's overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. It was a dreadfully high price to pay in my opinion to high but the suffering couldnt go on. It was almost featureless and the riders would not engage in it at all. But it was here he developed the ability to call a sprint. Kirby has more than two decades as a. I have been speaking to (former cyclist and Eurosport expert) Sean Kelly about it at various races, and we have both had hold your breath moments. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. If its one of those days where its going to end in a sprint and you need to cover 240km, then its gonna be a bit of a drag. I speak no language other than English. Yates ended up going out the back of the peloton, losing 1.22. For me Kirby has the key ingredient I need from a commentator. A mile from home, looked behind me, moved to the centre of the lane, stuck my arm out to turn right, got Editorial, general: info [at] road.cc Continuing our discussion of 2020's cancelled/postponed races continues, Eurosport bon viveur Carlton Kirby discusses why riding up Swiss mountains is easier than riding up French mountains; villages accessible only by ladder; the world's highest lighthouse; 70s balladeer Gilbert O'Sullivan; human . He has been commentating on the Tour de France since 2009, and his deep knowledge of the race and the riders makes him one of the most respected commentators in the sport. You get the mood of the crowd, and of the press. That is the way it appears. You also have picture breakdowns, sometimes audio breakdowns so weve got all that going on and we havent even got on to the racing yet!. People were saying track preparation knocks you back for the sprint because it is a different form of physicality that is needed. Stig Broeckx avoids serious injury after being hit by motorbike. The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet". As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's PLEASE CONTACT EUROSPORT/GCN INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL AS SIGNING, BECAUSE THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE A GREATER EFFECT. Page 6 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community. AndKirby wouldnt have it any other way, even if there are those who dont always appreciate what goes into calling a Tour de France stage. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. Youre at the finish line, essentially watching the TV albeit with extra screens.. VN:So, what really is gained by being on-site? Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. 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