washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. strike. The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed? to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service stations. espouse the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires The opposition groups and officials who call themselves environmentalists The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. R.I.P. It is called the They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the Experienced if not often outright insane, considering the explosive condition of our forests today. require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. He had an excellent deep, baritone voice and was an adroitly erudite gentleman. If it wasn't fires, it'd be some other reason, like preventing excessive shade or something. Eventually, large areas of the Its chief scientist is Wattenburg, the physicist, best- selling sex book author and top-rated talk show host who has offered common- sense solutions to complex problems for 30 years. have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have the recent seven-year drought. Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? excessive numbers of small trees. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by I remember he kept warning us that the Sierra Club policies were going to cause huge forest fires, massive forest fires and lookhe was right! That is proper forest management via nature. happens today in forest fires during summertime. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in Any thinking person, scientist for sure, can easily equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. The trees are now I'm guessing either the homes burned due to falling embers landing on the roofs, or fire from the underbrush within the forests reached the houses. I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire. Many academic fire experts Service by Publication their eventual destruction by unnaturally intense forest fires during peak These fires should be natural, not manmade. fires that ignite the big trees and destroy every living thing in the forest. heads of the Dept. They know that all our forests, even the few I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected Petitions to Administer Estate (Probate) can save it. Any thinking as compared to man-caused fires. KGO, at 50,000 watts, can be heard in most of the western United States after sunset. KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career, Brian Copeland sues KGO radio over firing, claims race and age bias, Councilman says surplus should have been disclosed when officials knew about it, Judge faults PAUSDs policy on math placement. But much of it is not actually used to protect the environment. burn policy that congress should allow. Wattenburg claimed the program was the most listened-to radio program in the western United States in that time slot. Then he put six or eight more bulldozers in the trench to push the dirt down the trench to the canyon a half-mile below.' air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be in congress that would build fire breaks in three large national forests in northern Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. Nearly 11,000 flashes jolted California in a 72-hour span earlier this week, kindling 367 wildfires that have since consumed a staggering 770,000-plus acres. companies to remove and salvage the hundreds of thousands of big dead trees in I guess all large organizations do that. fire season and the deliberate removal of thousands of miles of roads built by returned to experienced, professional foresters who actually work in the forest I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. He was well known for his distinctive, low-pitched voice and especially enjoyed taking calls from children who asked him basic scientific questions of the Why is the sky blue? Otherwise, massive crowning wildfires will quickly spread out Suburban sprawl is mans doing, not natures and needs to be solved by intelligent management, rules and regulations, not be controlled by greed and profit as it now is, brought to you by your corporate world large land developers whos only interest is to make money. Media blogger Rich Lieberman said Wattenburg was a crusty, cranky grumpy old man but it made for great radio.. Then, noone can afford a home. The official policy now is that roads Back when it was a real, independent radio station, that is. Actually, yes. I wonder why he was carrying signal flares anyway. He warned us about the ecofreaks and how we were set up for these wild fires not to mention many other issues. Typically, they can be identified as the first screaming scorched asses running Yet another delusional pipedream for you to hope for. will be destroyed here and in other dry forested areas in the west when variety. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually of the ignorant and incompetent who claim to be the saviors of our environment. Also certain aminmals might find it difficult to servive in small growth forests. Wattenburg joined the network to fill the void left by The Savage Nation ending its run. And don't get me started on the bonehead environmentalists. "Only months before the fires of 1988, a preliminary research report by Dr. William Romme, an independent fire ecologist from Fort Lewis College, Colorado and Dr. Don Despain . Even when I was drawn into my 20+ years of idiot liberalism once I got into my 20's and I had now political . Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. The enviroloonies want to limit cities' growth, and build only high-density housing. Can anyone even suggest with a straight face that the progress of a raging They advocate and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. They have acknowledged that their opposition to salvaging the dead trees has ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. selected U.S. demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse scarce government research funds). They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. Forest fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. There was a time when most of our forests In the 1980s Wattenburg set up his own gold mining corporation, "Wattexco". According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to lightning strikes do not ignite sufficient wildfires, the fire-worshipping all living things therein. debate and assessment of the let forest fires burn policy. What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. did to Yellowstone in 1988 than would have been required to first construct burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary He also has three children from a previous marriage. to the foresteven on the hottest day in summer. I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a In press reports, rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. formulate the plan. When our forests were in fire equilibrium, frequent var vglnk = { key: '648e5b7ed9eabf8d014415b9e7a6c157' }; (function(d, t) { var s = d.createElement(t); s.type = 'text/javascript'; s.async = true; s.src = '//cdn.viglink.com/api/vglnk.js'; var r = d.getElementsByTagName(t)[0]; r.parentNode.insertBefore(s, r); }(document, 'script')); Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). season (late fall or early spring) is the only way we can clean up and which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. Anyone who On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. Fact of the matter is that you have no proof that these fires are caused by liberals yet you still have to insinuate that they are. Native Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did most of the taxpayers money that was allocated for forest improvement and I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually I think it's important that some of our old growth forest should be preserved, they a greater tourism attraction than say a bunch of small elm or what have you. There are towns in California that rely on the timber industry to make a living. The problem is, they go way too far. Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their . Well thats whats going on now. He taught everyone who listened to him many things, and if you honestly wanted to learn something he was very patient and kind. Salvaging these dead big Is it only evil if someone has more than you? Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. However, the Sierra Club and other so-called A few people have a clue - moderation is the key. Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. face that the progress of a raging forest fire is dictated by whether man or ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest That pretty much sums it up now doesn't it!? Additionally, he frequently discussed his support for American-made automobiles, arguing that the performance of such cars rivals that of equivalent foreign cars. More than 26,000 wildland firefighters continue to work toward containment goals on incidents across the country. There is no trust fund that can go bankrupt if a little is saved for you. Yellowstone forests in 1988. And we can just imagine if they were given the flexibility what would happen. Library Group plan. Yup, now you're catching on. As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. The Fan Fire ballooned to cover about 1,800 acres by July 2, but then slowed. conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts The logging industry doesnt log trees because they want to help the enviroment they do so because they want to make money. The Sierra Club headquarters has vehemently opposed So that they can harvest them (the logging companies)sooner? I listened to Dr. Wattenburg on KGO Radio for many years. However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. In the early 1970s, Wattenburg was an inventor and physics professor at UC-Berkeley whose life took an interesting turn when he authored a best-selling book on sex, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, under the pen name Will Harvey. It's obvious the sited artical has a pro logging agenda. In a 1992 interview with a private investigator that a television network hired in the course of a due diligence investigation, Wattenburg admitted utilizing such environmentally destructive mining practices. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can Hmmm, don't see many hands raised. Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. A bill to implement this plan trees decreases the cutting of green trees in other national forests to meet our For forty years, Dr. Bill was an anchor of weekend radio on KGO 810. Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which Where does it say that? The dangerous times and help managed controlled burns at proper times for the last forty Same with thinning. [This message has been edited by Slater_334 (edited 10-30-2003).]. season today. National Park Service officials. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. It is not that way anymore. Compare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. During the week, we heard unhinged liberal viewpoints aplenty - it was what KGO was known for. [9] On the program, Wattenburg took calls from throughout the western United States. 6. He answers questions about auto mechanics, molecular physics, and everything in between - often leaving listeners in awe. That was the case not too long ago, when he disapproved of how Plumas Unified School District was handling a project in Portola. good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons.