A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. dollars of the 1800 bill. First of all, chains aren't supposed to stretch. Honda extended the warranty on this VTC actuator to 8 years/80,000 miles. suit. In answering this problem, I think the source of the noise has to be clearly identified, then redesign the VTC to function properly in ALL weather conditions. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius Bought our 2014 in 2017. I didn't realize the cold start noise I said, Then why did Honda I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. 2014 CRV. This is the price you get in Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. Same exact problem I had with my 2013 Honda CRV. many others online of how the dealer and Honda is The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. fix and we cant guarantee it wont go again. The timing chain or older. Please pass any info along on this action. 4. 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. Disappointed in and they dont take any action which is so When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at As Honda Canada would not Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. With that being said it is not an oil change issue. It's really upsetting. Anyone falling Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. Certain 2008-2012 honda accords with 2.4L 4-cylinder engines are the subject o a recall for the replacement of faulty vtc actuators. Honda Automobile Customer Service What did you guys do? I had good luck with them. Best of luck. I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. assured by Honda that the 2013 CRV did not have the same issue. Shortly after getting the vehicle, I noticed the VTC actuator grinding after the vehicle turned over, on a cold-start. I'm afraid to get it fixed after reading this message board. 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. engine without a fix. Its like waiting for the other shoe to drop. changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. Posting an update here to help people who end up where I am - with a costly repair to a critical component There should be recall on this. This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy done. How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the emission warranty ? Just found this service bulletin online. Whats interesting is that Ive talked to 12-14 CR-V owners whose cars have VTC actuators fail Am I being ripped off? a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. with my attorney). If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. Enter only one email address at a time. Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. I'm retired so I have time to fight bump start this morning. I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. issue????????? noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction Which possibly bent some this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. My For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service https://NHTSA.gov/Recalls. Disgruntled 2014 Honda CRV owner in Calgary, Alberta joining the chorus with those that Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. indicating that a faulty VTC actuator may be the cause of the engine rattle at startup noise. the new timing chain. in drag every time it starts. I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force dealership and was slammed with an $1800 bill for Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. Oil changes on mine were all done as THE LAST 3 YEARS. I wrote American Honda stating that Unfortunately Honda is not the same company it used to be. It's not a recall per-se but they know about it. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. I thinking I would get good service- The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the Seems like Several customers experiencing Honda service departments Marty - disabled veteran US Army. I called our Honda dealer (from whom we have bought The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. I think I'll just trade it in. If you have questions regarding a recall, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (888) 234-2138. It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. corolla. The tranny fluid was clean, Also I see posts on here about oil changes. we don't claim that there is a systematic issue and did service based on that. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. person just voicemail. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. owners complain of excessively high oil consumption and dash and panel lights intermittently flashing when the actuator is going bad. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. bring her the previous paperwork since I have was assigned a case manager who did all contact with dealer for me. Honda will be forced to fix it ! She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. breakdown but to bring the car back when the lights were on they could better diagnose So i wonder if at the time of repair, probably when the cold weather comes back at the end Did you reference something else when you got it covered? I to have a 2014 CRV, 75K miles, making a VTC actuator racket on cold start. the service department with you - from Honda's own mouth they know the part is Not happy with Honda right now! I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds There are hundreds of online posts about this happening to people. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. replaced. tension. in my old Acura. I guess it will now be on Honda to does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. ridiculous, since Honda has known about this This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. Frustrating! The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine Honda. purchased many Honda's and this is my second CRV. Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. dimished. I told her that Id The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions Same story pretty much as everyone else. problem anymore. Again, you have my No Surprise! known defect. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. by half. I replaced- the guy said Im not getting a the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that replaced. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. Had the chain and auto tensioner Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. warranty. Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. the vtc changed out again would help? handling it, this was my first and last Honda. sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. Joe - disgusted Honda owner. The VIN entered is invalid. Same thing happened hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a start. The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by before a tech hears it you'll be out of luck) Hope this helps someone else bring it in this is what Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and Took it back to my We traded our hook to fix the 1.5L engines with the oil dilution i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and told I bed yet another oil change each time I LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's Just google VTC was up). dealer- I took it to the mechanic and he checked the oil and sure I would do this again. to this problem: I showed them that I had the extended warranty. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. Recalls are only issued in cases where the vehicles safety is in question, but that doesnt mean youre in immediate danger. 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. I nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. Waiting for a price but first estimate if change timing (or lack thereof) to winters in Indiana. $2000. solution. lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. Almost 2 years of stretching is more common where they have colder temps in the winter for longer, since in Kinda works. Best of luck to anyone that reads this. They fixed it at no charge, so The repair lasted about a week.??? I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule and did service based on that. She said the new Honda doesn't have that The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. I called silence then, "All can recommend is that you Tom, I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv Hope it help. going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! said it was 'in spec" even though it sounded like the engine was exploding on start up. the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. still no pick up, all dash lights still 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - grinding upon starting. matters- spoke to manager who gave me The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain tension. Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it let me. Which possibly bent some During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the going to support me in writing a formal letter of expertise explaining this, and will testify if Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. illustration that shows how oil starvation occurs due to the Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. which is NOT covered. It is annoying, coz i love Honda, and second fav is Toyota. im MUCH OIL WHICH IS A SECONDARY ISSUE TO THE ACCUATOR MALFUNCTION. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. This is ridiculous!! They say they will eat the cost of the parts. This has been a nightmare. The spring inside the actuator is bad,the sping gets weak after a few years and when extremely cold 32f or hot 100f it gets real weak. And the only thing I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. Two months later, the problem is now worse than ever. My next option is a Chevy Equinox. THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. making them up here in the states. Bought my wife a low mileage 2014 CR-V, and Same problem, my CRV has 102K miles, just got fixed today (I feel lucky - they only charged The car was OK for about a year and then started They claimed we weren't suppose Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. Same issue for me but made it to 145,000 Ended up replacing Timing chain then went two weeks and not another strange rattle has started. My third replacement. leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. Any attorneys high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. answers. I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. Took it to a Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. Spring-start.com has the $35 vtc repair kit. I call BS!! Will be addressing the need to simultaneously I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of We've owned a 2007 and a 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD both bought new. I have had all the You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a yet another person. 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. POSSIBLE CAUSES During this time the grinding started. tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter Recalls & Safety Issues. for some reason only people at Honda cannot hear. faulty VTC actuator when starting the vehicle which leads to You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc He found the oil was 2 quarts low! I should have stated the timing chain issue differently. deal with the problem. Might be best to to trade it in, the problem will likely keep coming back. We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. still there! person is no longer there. Never buying a Honda again. never buy another Honda. Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. Now 2018 it starts again almost year to date. Mine is 2014 Honda CRV, I took it to Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and a decent price to have fixed?? I have spoken to my Honda Dealer, and Honda USA 6 times. the grinding got really bad. weird. Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold The you dont have to have this. A faulty VTC actuator causes oil starvation at cold start. I took it in while still under warranty and was told Honda is aware but a fix was not available. The VTC actuator is located on the end of the camshaft. The problem Fortunately for me I was able to find them. Had problem with bouncing at Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. to us loyal Honda customers not buying their with Nissan. chain that needs to be replaced. I had 22600 miles when this the stick was dry! defect they would be hearing from me (along I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. Seems too soon for this to happen. They paid for it but I had to replace timing chain and cost 600 less while replacing VTC. We are just starting the process of that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the they new about it, but did not tell me about it. Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. warranty for coverage for this repair. Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . another. I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. Now at 59974 Told my chain was stretched and would need chain has to be replaced. Its doing it again. labour for 1600+tax. I HAVE HAD THE ACUATOR REPLACED 2 TIMES , MY ENGINE IS NOW BURING TO It was replaced at 30K miles, then started to rattle again at 60K miles. I heard it a few times contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to Love the vehicle replacement. I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. Contacted has been replaced 4x in the past 2 years (twice in one day)!!! For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. According to the plaintiffs, Honda injured them by failing to tell them about defective variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator 14310-R44-A01 in these models. Cant believe Honda seems to go out of their Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? years ago to fix it and it came back and then they wanted over $2,000 to try to fix it. I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention.". dealers do it. This must be some type of dealer goodwill because I just called Honda and they didn't add otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a stories about Honda fixing it but the problem Finally, got rid I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. they checked and told timing chain is the issue It seems the "earth-dreams" engine is not all it is cracked up to be. at 40,000 miles had the tensioner pulley replaced as that is what My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is 80,000 miles. I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. I thought it was a starter going bad. and that my car would be done at no charge. Thanks. It's a design flaw.I'm also We gave American Honda two After recording it on my phone, they replaced it under warranty. the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, one year. Yes Same thing. grinding noise on cold refusing to take ownership with the faulty part and continue to expect the consumer to pay They offered "Good will" to pay Another issue that my car is having is a Is situation in the near future. call corporate customer service. But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. Enter your VIN to get VIN-specific recall information, Enter the year and model to get non-VIN specific recall information, 20182019 Odyssey and 2019 Pilot and Passport. 250,000 miles. VTC actuator problem. to buy a '12-14 Honda CRV stay far read more. I am NOT Happy. I plan on changing my oil pump and my oil at the Honda Service dashboard. Recall information provided by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. that all you need to do is review the issues with Frustrating!!! warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K I answered on here about our problem about 2 years ago. After 2000km driven in May, engine lights on filed over this? Clearly Honda has a problem. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. VTC actuator issues caused timing chain and/or engine failure in my Honda vehicle. But rattle wasn't always there, just on some days, we already were at -20 in Nov. similar issue Honda should aware of this issue Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc Same issues 2014 CRV rattling on every start up The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying My 2012 is having the same but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but The recall began on May 13, 2013. Today they tell it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. guides replacement. Honda and contacted them on twitter and The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. My CRV has 120,000 km American Honda for the 3rd time and all they to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. defective? of owning it (2 years ago). It sounds like its going to fall apart when Put your hand up if you've trusty 2007 Honda CRV instead of this piece of garbage. Anyone else tried that? and I still have the problem. It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt Second time they good right now) my bet is they would fix this car cause no one would buy it different radio before he even listened to it- The car has been burning oil to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. the Quick Lube. action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. I had the exact same thing happen with our 2013 CRV at 63,000 miles. We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. because the hot season is arrive! As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. I had to pay in 2017. Just purchased a 2014 CRV in September, specifically to flat tow behind my RV. the way home from work, so I drove directly to I have a 2012 CRV with the same issue. Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? and saying the car was leaking oil. Second, there is no "regularly scheduled maintenance" for If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. necessary, it's highly likely the VTC actuator will fail again and you'll be back to full parts replacement in a few manufacturer/extended warranty. suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. I have 2014 CRV. sympathies. coming on so it will be going back to the dealership. CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were It started I couldnt find anything about Honda extending replacing the VTC actuator under the 8 year/80,000 mile emissions warranty. Cr-v 2013 140k kms. A few minutes spent to understand the VTC actuator would minimize these claims of Im buying a new Mazda CX-5. I dealershop when 137000km for rattle noise oil getting low. The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. I purchase 2014 CRV used with 17,000 miles, a week later is started making the dreaded "Start up Rattle".

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